The.30-30 Winchester and the.35 Remington is probably not going to set any new speed records. But don’t judge a book by its cover, just like that old guy who can knock your teeth out with one punch.
Along with Winchester’s famous lever-action from 1894, the.30-30 Win. came out on the market in 1895. Today, it is the undisputed king of the deer woods.
About ten years later, in 1906, Remington released the.35 along with the Model 8 semi-automatic rifle. Both cartridges last a long time, which shows how well they work on animals.
They also work well with short, light carbines, which makes them popular among hunters who often have to work in thick brush.
Both cartridges are great choices for hunting deer or black bears with a new rifle. But if you can only pick one veteran, who should it be?
.30-30 Win. Ballistics vs. .35 Rem. Ballistics
Like most of our Caliber Battles, you have to choose between a faster-moving bullet with a lighter projectile (the.30-30) and a heavier bullet that moves more slowly (the .35 Rem.).
The book “Cartridges of the World” by Frank C. Barnes says that the original.30-30 load used a 160-grain bullet and had a muzzle velocity of 1,970 feet per second (fps).
Most modern loads use bullets that weigh between 150 and 170 grains and move at a speed of 2,300 feet per second. This is a big improvement over the original design.
The.35 Remington is a little slower than the others, but not by much. Federal makes Power Shok, which can move a 200-grain bullet at a speed of 2,080 feet per second.
Barnes says that factory normal pressures are usually too low. The.35 Rem. is definitely more powerful than the.30-30. A 200-grain bullet fired by hand from a modern bolt-action rifle can reach speeds of 2,400 fps.
Barnes says that the.35 Rem has “much better knockdown power than the.30-30 in any situation and at any range.” This is a good way to describe the.35 Rem.
When it comes to shooting from far away, neither cartridge is better than the other. Before the term “ballistic coefficient” became common in gun stores, most bullets used in cartridges were wide and short, which made them less effective at longer distances.
With most loads in either cartridge, a hunter shouldn’t expect to kill game reliably at distances farther than 200 yards.
In this case, the.35 Remington is the standard, and there’s no doubt that it has better stopping power. But big bullets that move quickly aren’t the only way to kill game.
Because of how popular this round has become and how much research has been done on.30-caliber pills, the.30-30 can be loaded with much more advanced projectiles than the.30-06.
Federal makes high-quality ammunition for the 12.30-30, like the Trophy Copper and HammerDown lines. For the.35 Rem, on the other hand, the only choice is Federal’s classic, lead-core Power-Shok line.
Even though they have been shown to work well in the field, classic lead-core bullets have a hard time keeping up with newer bullet technology.
Most factory loads for the.30-30 use bullets that travel faster and kill faster than those used in other calibers. At least for me, that’s the cherry on top.
.30-30 Win. Shootability vs. .35 Rem. Shootability
When looking at how accurate the.30-30 Win. and the.35 Rem. are,
You can be sure of making both shots. Because of how little recoil they make, each is good for lighter rifles and people who are just learning to shoot.
Chuck Hawks’ recoil table says that a.30-30 rifle that weighs 7.5 pounds and is loaded with a.30-30 only has about 10 foot-pounds of energy. The.35 Rem. has a little faster muzzle speed and a little less energy at the muzzle (13 ft.-lbs.).
A.270 Winchester produces about 17 foot-pounds of force, while a.30-06 produces 20 foot-pounds. If you’re hunting in an area where shots need to be taken within 100 yards, there’s no reason to hurt your shoulder by firing those cartridges.
If you want to save money instead of your shoulder, the.30-30 is the way to go. Each box of.35 Rem. ammunition costs about $45 and comes in boxes of twenty rounds.
The.30-30 Win is better for shooting because it has less kickback and costs a lot less. If you have a rifle with this caliber, you can spend more time at the range and practice more than if you used a.35 Rem.
Winchester won with a score of 0.30 to 0.30.
.30-30 Win. Versatility vs. .35 Rem. Versatility
Since neither cartridge has a lot of different options, their uses are pretty much the same. Both the.30-30 and the.35 Rem.
Are best for hunting deer and black bear because of the different bullet weights and overall cartridge diameters. With most guns, neither cartridge is strong enough to kill very large game, and neither is good enough to kill pests.
Official specifications say that the.35 Rem. and the.30-30 can use bullets that weigh between 100 and 190 grams.
Both the.30-30 and the.35 Remington can be found in the wild with projectile weights between 125 and 170 grains. In the.35 Remington, hunters can expect to find bullet weights between 200 and 220 grains.
When it comes to guns that are easy to get, the.30-30 stands out even more from the rest. Winchester, Savage, Marlin, and Remington all made lever-action, bolt-action, rolling-block, and single-shot rifles soon after it came out.
The.30-30 is one of the most popular small-bore sporting cartridges ever made. Most major manufacturers now make.30-30 actions with more than one action.
On the other hand, it’s not always easy to get by with the.35 Rem. Marlin makes the Model 336 in.30-30 and.35 Rem., but it’s not clear if Ruger, which just bought Marlin, will keep the line going.
When I looked on GunBroker.com for used guns that were chambered in.35 Rem., I got 109 results. I got 5,841 hits when I changed the search so that only results with.30-30 were shown.
Winchester won with a score of 0.30 to 0.30.
And the Winner Is…
We haven’t won every Caliber Battle series match until now. I’ll admit that I wanted the.35 Remington to win. I was looking for a way to explain why I liked the.35 Remington because I like a good underdog story (and because it is a less common cartridge). But the.30-30 has been around for 126 years because it works.
It’s cheap and easy to shoot, and it can kill whitetail deer at close range. It is neither fast nor aerodynamic, but it has more than enough power to do the job.
The final score, as a whole, is.